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Ever Have A Bad Epidural?

I’ll try an make this as short as I can. I was receiving a lumbar epidural steroid injection. I’ve had three different kinds of pain shots over the years – so I know what to expect.

This though went terribly wrong IMO. As soon as he hit me with that needle the most undescribable pain went throughout my entire body. I feel like I flipped like a fish or something, lunging off that table. There was the doc who gave the injection and two other people in the room. As soon as it happened I turned over blood red pissed and the doc said “that was normal, you’re ok.” I said “pal, I’ve had over 10-12 of these since 93, that ‘was NOT normal’.”

I could tell from the look on his face he knew he screwed up. Usually after a shot, it takes maybe thirty to forty seconds to wipe you off and pull up your britches and get in the wheelchair. I GUARANTEE it took two of those guys (not the doc – he hightailed it out of there) a little over three minutes to wipe off both the injection concoction along with my freeking spinal fluid that sprayed all over my back /shorts/ shoulders and even in my hair!

If he’d been honest or even apologized it wouldn’t have been as bad, but I feel he tried to play me for a fool. Shortly after that, I had the most incredible headache and I don’t do headaches. It lasted for a little over a week to week and a half. I crapped my pants and one other time three days later I walked down my hallway in baggy shorts with no underwear and literally unknown to me at the time – dropped a poop log right on the hallway floor. I was so numb “down there” I didn’t even know. When I would wipe my ass – for a couple weeks at least – I could hardly tell I was whiping – follow me? I don’t want to describe what can happen if that goes down, use your imagination.

The day after the shot, from my calves down to my feet looked like busted blood vessels, with the blood pooling mainly at the top of both of my feet. My legs and feet are now scarred and every now and then there is another break in a vessel in my feet and the blood comes to the top and then dries (I guess) or goes wherever leaving another nice scar. My legs and feet are now shot, both visually and physically. I now have pain down both legs and feet all the time 24 hrs. a day and before that shot – it was just pain in my lower back. I’d have maybe a little soreness in my knees but I don’t know if that was attributed to my back.

The day after the shot, their office was calling me (which they never did before -three times over eight business days) and was asking realllll nice “how I was doing” – which I responded not too nicely and I let them know I shit myself and crapped on my floor and didn’t even know it. Their response “well, it wasn’t anything Dr. At**** did (Cincinnati doctor BTW.)” I about busted out laughing and pissed at the same time.

Sooooo. At least for me, there will never again be a doctor sticking a needle in my back ever again. The most relief I ever received to begin with – was three months. Now knowing what CAN happen – nah baby nah – ain’t happening. I can PROMISE you that when it happens to you, and it will – sooner or later if you get enough of them….you’ll never let them do it again unless you’re into someone inflicting pain on yourself. I look forward to any response or anything I can contribute….I will try and everyone hang in there.:-)

31 thoughts on “Ever Have A Bad Epidural?”

  1. I had the same experience with my neck.. It scared the hell out of my I am afraid it did permanent damage…… Have you recovered back to normal or are your still having problems

  2. Wow – that is a terrible story. I hope you have recovered from this by now. I have an epidural steroid injection scheduled but after reading this I’m thinking I may cancel it and just wait out the pain – and there’s a lot of it. Everything I’ve tried so far has made the situation worse. Chiropractor put me in the emergency room for 2 days. Acupuncture increased the pain and introduced it to new areas in my leg since I tried it. The pain killers prescribed cause constipation that is more painful (I didn’t think it was possible) than the Sciatica I’m experiencing.

    It sucks that human medical knowledge is still in the dark ages – in just about any area. These buffoons that call themselves Doctors are clueless.

    It’s a disgrace that they’re in a position to make you sign a waver that you won’t sue them for malpractice or not treat you. It’s their responsibility to be professionals. They should have insurance – not put the risk on the patient!

    Funny how your story and the replies are full of grammatical mistakes. I’ve found that chronic pain can be quite detrimental to mental ability in more than that.

    Good luck and I wish you a speedy recovery!

    Alex

    1. Hi: This is in response to your response to Abbie’s horrific injection experience and yours. I was most intrigued by your observation of misspellings. I have been a chronic pain sufferer for years. 1993, 1998, 2000 etc. There was an article about a guy named A. Vania Apkarian titled “Chronic Pain tied to brain changes.” This was in the Chicago Tribune 11/23/2004 and was a validation for me. By controlling the level of pain…you can save your brain. After all this time I know what meds I can or can not take but it doesn’t stop doctors from trying to destroy me with new ones. We are all different and have to figure out what works for us. The problem is finding the right people, (Sorry about your experience with Chiro’s and Acupuncture. Mine have been good.) who give a damn that your pain can effect your ability to even Write. I have had to use my own shorthand as my 1st disability is Ulnar Neuropathy in my writing hand. But mentally, after an awful injection that touched my nerve I find myself making more errors than ever. I moved to s.A. from Fla. and used to take Kadian- a time released morphine- because my pain levels were so high. My dose was not so high and this pain doctor actually said that I take a “whiff” and I felt so validated. I didn’t want to take more. I use ice and heat every day. But since I moved here they look at me like I am asking for Heroin. Now that this latest doctor has caused me NEW agonies I am being very careful to find someone who can give me a sympathetic nerve block injection. It was done in Fla. and gave me 3 weeks of relief. If they screw it up I am paralyzed. My only other option is an operation. It may seem destructive to some to take pain meds but when your levels are constantly high it’s not the meds that are causing the grammatical errors…it’s the pain. Good luck to you all.

  3. i had a bad experience with my last epidural. woke up 3 times in pain during the precedure. woke up with a terrible headache that lasted for days. my sugar went real high and after 5 weeks it still is. went from 2 glucaphage a day to 4 glucophage and 4 shots. the worst part is i can’t get any answers from the doctor. i talked to his office worker . i heard him say the 3rd time i woke up that he was worried about his patients. i guess i was yelling loud. i remember saying ouch it hurts.i was in a fog for about 5 weeks due to high sugar and was terribly disoriented. have had alot of injections but never one like this. was diabetic then so what happened during the procedure? doctors should be open with their patients. i never thought about suing him just want answers. a simple explanation works wonders. that gives you the opportuninty to be aware of problems for future injections that you might need.this reaction from a doctor could make a person to sue to get the medical records. simple solution to doctors is to be honest with patient. if he missed the right space or pierced the sac etc just tell them what happened. it causes a fear of other injections.

  4. I have been on meds since 1992 for back pain had lower back fused in 1998 4 discs now i have 3 bulged discs in neck scared of injections but they have me sceduled tuesday why do i have to do this against will

  5. I have had several injections in my neck. I have had different results. Finally I had surgery ( a three level fusion) Now two years later after failed results from injections I am facing another surgery. Not nice.
    I have a couple words of advice..the first is no two shots are going to feel the same. How bad the shot will hurt depends on how inflamed the area is. I have never had a sedative before an injection. Perhaps different doctors do things differently. I believe that the shots will only work for so long and then something else will have to be done.
    Be very particular on who you chose to do the injection. Just like everything else. Some are better at it than others. I hope this has helped alittle.

  6. OMG!! after reading your story scares the living daylights out of me. My worry is what if you have bleeding into spaces, what is done then?? I’m considering epidural inj. for herniated disc bc I have swelling & pain. Hoping this will reduce inflammation & help heal. Ever wonder why Dr.’s are called “practicing physicians”? That’s what they do “practice on us” Then we’re forced to sign a consent agreement prior to this so we can’t sue them. I do wish you well, & also feel so bad you’ve had such a horrible experience. Hope your doing better & thank you for posting your experience, it does give us a lot of food for thought & wonder if we really want to do this.

  7. I had one epidural steroid injection in my neck last year-it did nothing for the pain and I had to have a 2 level acdf earlier this year. The injection I had 3 months earlier caused scar tissue which prolonged the surgery.

    It’s not a question of checking out your doctor before having them done as Anne stated. My doctor was the best in the city but sometimes these don’t work. My neighbor had the same surgery I did a few years back and the surgeon told her he was glad she never had any because of the scar tissue that forms from them. I cringe when I think of how your insides look Anne after 15 years of them.

  8. I had my first epidural spinal block june 2011, i was petrifyed, but it was not to bad, i had 7-8 weeks pain free, so when i was ready to have the next one i did not hesitate, i went to hospital at 8.30am Saturday 3rd March, how i reget it now, from the time the needle went in i was in terrible pain,the nurse held my hand and asked why i was breathing that way. The pain went right down my neck and felt like it went under my right shoulder blade, my arms went really heavy, i had a terrible headache which lasted a couple of days. One week later i was rushed into hospital, i started to shake voilently, i was red hot, my speak went, the use in my right leg went. The hospital did blood and water test, placed me on heart machine, kept me there for several hours then sent me home, one week later took to hospital again, this is happening everyday now. This time they kept me in, did a brain scan, blood and water test sent me home the next day, they did not know what it was. SIX months down the line it is still happening, i saw a neurologist he told me i needed to go back to the person who done this to me. I have had i right game to see the specialist who gave me the injection, i have been to the hospital several times whilest having at attack, but they don’t want to know, so i threatend them with a solicitor, the next thing there was an appointment, i have had an MRI scan but no nerve damage showed up, i am now waiting to go to the Queen Elizabeth hospital, as my specialist said he now doesn’t know what it is, i may even be like this the rest of my life he doesn’t know!

  9. Anne since you have found such a wonderful dr could you please share with us exactly how you checked him out? where do you get information? y’know,something constructive and helpful?

  10. Well I had about 15 treatments on upper spine neck area and lower spine tailbone. Everything was going OK until one prick of the needle near my neck. The pain ran straight up to my head, across the shoulder (right) and nearly had me in tears. For the next 4 visits they kept asking me, am I feeling any pain in my forearms” and I replied no.

    Then on one visit after I had told them I want no more treatments because they had not changed my pain levels in any way, and that if they could not give me medication to deal with the pain I was going to find another doctor. Mind you I am not a drug user ever, no pot, coke or otherwise, but getting pain meds from a pain management doctor was like pulling teeth. Just asking for them triggered a pee test and calls to my pharmacy to see if I was getting more than was prescribed. I had asked for more or stronger meds because what they gave me was not working.

    While waiting for the doc to decide on the meds I overheard the doc and the nurse talking about me. She said “why have you been injecting him here when his MRI shows there” he said “I;ve never looked at his MRI – after 8 MONTHS of injections!

    So I got a new doc. Don’t know if after reading this thread I will continue treatment. Something has gone horribly wrong with my forearms and are in so much needle like pain I can not turn the steering wheel of my car. My wife tried to massage my back near the injection site and found a huge growth or lump that I now assume is scar tissue.

    I was a pedestrian hit by a truck and lucky to be alive but now I find myself in the USA with no one willing to traet my pain except my very expensive injections that have already backfired on me and never relieved any of my pain. I’ve also noticed that I forget letters in words when writing or sometimes entire words in sentences.

    The pain is so bad I don’t know what to do anymore. I am thinking about going out of the USA for morphine injection kits or something.

    I am definitely suing doctor one for treating me without looking at the MRI he ordered done. But right now all I want is a week with no pain or at least greatly reduced pain.

    Any suggestions are most welcome.

    Rich

  11. I regret to tell my story,only because I have had over 20 epidural in my life time and I have had one spinal fluid leak that I needed a blood patch that did help.But yesterday I had a epidural and I was hurting as they ask 7 or 8 and when I was finished 19 oh my gosh I have cried all night and still this morning I am in so much pain that if I knew it would do any good I would go to the hospital,my right leg is dragging and the pain in my butt cheeks r unbelievably so bad I called doc office they say normal…..but I have never had this to happen they say do to the inflamition before procedure that he hit a nerve and he for sure did that,I am sure I will never have another one for the fact that it is supposed to help the pain not make it worse please forgive me for just rambling about this hope it helps someone

  12. had 3 epidurial steriod shots for pinch nerve now it went to my hip and knee does anyone know what i can do for this have a hard time walking

  13. I fell getting my mail which my mailbox is located in the streets….the snow plow company didnt plow close enough to mailboxes which unbenounced to me caused me to lean forward and come off my toes….when i went to slowly push back and gain my footing, i turned, lost my balance,. Lost my footing and down i went…thinking it was just a oops slip and fall….twenty min later i felt the most unbelievable pain in my lower back and down my right leg that i have ever felt….to the E.R..xrays, pain shots and meds and sent home…A couple days of excruciating pain sent me back to E.R. With the same repeat…five days after fall to a back surgeon who immediately admitted me to the hospital…tedt after test and a steriod epidural with no relief…surgery was inevitable….i had a,lamenectomy and a jammed, bruised nerve was discovered and repaired along with a degenerative L4 was repaired, but the L4 was not my issues…finally relieved of the excruitating pain…i thought now the healing process will begin and i will be ok…..Not knowing my life was bout to take a downward spiral effect that would change my life forever….when i fell, I was a street patrol police officer for over 14 yrs and i passionately love my job more than anyone could possibly imagine….five months after surgery, i returned to work still with pain and being told by doc that it will take a long,.long time to heal…well i worked the streets wearing a 16 lb gunbelt and entire uniform and gunbelt weighing over 25 lbs coupled with the twenty lbs i had gained from laying on my back recovering was hard…but with pain meds and p.t. And docs assuring me that my spine was perfect that i should be ok, but they couldnt explain my pain….over a course of two yrs with several steriod epidurals, physical therapy, numerous different pain meds that didnt work, also on Cymbalta, Lyrica, and Gabapentin which all made me sick….then diagnosed with bursitis of right shoulder, osteoarthritissacriliitis of left S/I jpint, and severe scar tissue built up under surgery site….i know have chronic lower back pain, charlie horses in my legs like twinkling christmas tree lights, numbness and tingling in my feet and toes, along with constant S/I joint pain…im told by doctors there is nothing tjey can do for me, to hang up my gunbelt and take a desk job and see a counselor for trying to deal with the fact that the career which i live, lived for, and always dreamed of doing will inevitably be no longer….but the thought of that i could not bare because I love being a Police Officer….so i fought the idea of a desk job and im still fighting…again off work on a FMLA in attempt to go hard on physical therapy, lose the back weight i gained, and do another series of steroid epidurals…..i could fight this, win, and go back to what I Live doing more than anything in the world…..P.T. And neuromuscular massages seemed to be helping but a slow, slow process….After eight neuromuscular massages, the therapists had seemed to minimize my charlie horses in my legs, and the numbness/tingling in my feet/toes…then i was told the insurance co would only pay for 8 neuromuscular massages and slowly the charlie horses in my legs came back….Dec 2012 i had one steriod epidural which helped slightly, Jan 2013 i had my second which again, helped so ever slightly, but at this point, i will take whatever so slighty pain relief I could get….then on Feb 20, 2013 i had my final third steriod epidural of my series…i slept all day after rhat making sure i stayed in bed…the second day, i was very sore at the injection site which was normal in the past….then as the second day went on, i vomited,.still thinking nothing of it believing i possibly had not eaten enoughwith my pain meds that caused me to be sick as the day went on, i began to get a violent headache still thinking that it was i had not drank enough water, i took my motrin 600 and tried to sleep off,my headache….going into the third day after my epidural, i woke still sore at injection site, but my headache was gone feeling pretty good….so i did some lite laundry trying to move about as to not get to sore from laying in bed….then by early evening, my lower back was excruiating, i was nausish,.and a headache started again…fearing something was terribly wrong, my fiance rushed me to the E.R….they loaded me up with pain meds and i.v. Fluids to ease the back pain and my violent headache….then the doc told me that my spinal sac had been punctured by the epidural needle causing spinal fluid to leak….i was released, told to bed rest for few ays, drink plenty of caffiene to help subside the headache,.take my regular pain meds as prescribed, and if the severe pain and headaches do not subside, to return to the E.R. For a blood patch, where they would remove blood from my arm and inject it in my spine near the injectionsite to cause a.hematoma to stop the spinal flyid from leaking….buy the time i had got home from the hospital, i vomitted every ounce of fluid i drank…..thinking it was from all the pain mefs i had received in the hospital, i stopped drinking so i wouldnt vomit, and went to sleep….day four, i woke late afternoon,.still sore in lower back and a faint headache…..i decided to stay in bed praying the spinal fluids stop leaking, because if you dont lay on back in bed and stand up, the spinal fluids leak, you will get naushish, and possibly vomit and the headache will get worse….because i do not, if i dont have too, want another needle put into my back after what i just went thru with this bad experience of this steriod epidural that caused my spinal fluids to leak and causing my severe pain, vomiting, and violent headache …so with that being said….i dont think i will ever do another epidural after what i just experienced…as thou i have not been thru enough pain thru these two long yrs of chronic pain and the docs say there is nothing else they can do, but also suggested a spinal cord stimulator placed inside my back which constanly releases pain meds…but right now, thats not an option, that is there solution….me only being 44 yrs old, im too young too go that drastic this early and it will surely end my Police career…so all i have now is a whole lot of praying, physical therapy, pain management, hoping someday i will get better, tje pain will ease up, and i will get back into my uniform, get back to my life which has been so drastically altered by my fall. . Will i ever do another elidural?..Hecky NO….am i confident i will ever get better? Not sure, but i have not given up faith….but i am starting to lose faith in the doctors who have so quickly given up on me and didnt hesitate to tell me to hang up my gunbelt and just

  14. I fell getting my mail which my mailbox is located in the streets….the snow plow company didnt plow close enough to mailboxes which unbenounced to me caused me to lean forward and come off my toes….when i went to slowly push back and gain my footing, i turned, lost my balance,. Lost my footing and down i went…thinking it was just a oops slip and fall….twenty min later i felt the most unbelievable pain in my lower back and down my right leg that i have ever felt….to the E.R..xrays, pain shots and meds and sent home…A couple days of excruciating pain sent me back to E.R. With the same repeat…five days after fall to a back surgeon who immediately admitted me to the hospital…tedt after test and a steriod epidural with no relief…surgery was inevitable….i had a,lamenectomy and a jammed, bruised nerve was discovered and repaired along with a degenerative L4 was repaired, but the L4 was not my issues…finally relieved of the excruitating pain…i thought now the healing process will begin and i will be ok…..Not knowing my life was bout to take a downward spiral effect that would change my life forever….when i fell, I was a street patrol police officer for over 14 yrs and i passionately love my job more than anyone could possibly imagine….five months after surgery, i returned to work still with pain and being told by doc that it will take a long,.long time to heal…well i worked the streets wearing a 16 lb gunbelt and entire uniform and gunbelt weighing over 25 lbs coupled with the twenty lbs i had gained from laying on my back recovering was hard…but with pain meds and p.t. And docs assuring me that my spine was perfect that i should be ok, but they couldnt explain my pain….over a course of two yrs with several steriod epidurals, physical therapy, numerous different pain meds that didnt work, also on Cymbalta, Lyrica, and Gabapentin which all made me sick….then diagnosed with bursitis of right shoulder, osteoarthritissacriliitis of left S/I jpint, and severe scar tissue built up under surgery site….i know have chronic lower back pain, charlie horses in my legs like twinkling christmas tree lights, numbness and tingling in my feet and toes, along with constant S/I joint pain…im told by doctors there is nothing tjey can do for me, to hang up my gunbelt and take a desk job and see a counselor for trying to deal with the fact that the career which i live, lived for, and always dreamed of doing will inevitably be no longer….but the thought of that i could not bare because I love being a Police Officer….so i fought the idea of a desk job and im still fighting…again off work on a FMLA in attempt to go hard on physical therapy, lose the back weight i gained, and do another series of steroid epidurals…..i could fight this, win, and go back to what I Live doing more than anything in the world…..P.T. And neuromuscular massages seemed to be helping but a slow, slow process….After eight neuromuscular massages, the therapists had seemed to minimize my charlie horses in my legs, and the numbness/tingling in my feet/toes…then i was told the insurance co would only pay for 8 neuromuscular massages and slowly the charlie horses in my legs came back….Dec 2012 i had one steriod epidural which helped slightly, Jan 2013 i had my second which again, helped so ever slightly, but at this point, i will take whatever so slighty pain relief I could get….then on Feb 20, 2013 i had my final third steriod epidural of my series…i slept all day after rhat making sure i stayed in bed…the second day, i was very sore at the injection site which was normal in the past….then as the second day went on, i vomited,.still thinking nothing of it believing i possibly had not eaten enoughwith my pain meds that caused me to be sick as the day went on, i began to get a violent headache still thinking that it was i had not drank enough water, i took my motrin 600 and tried to sleep off,my headache….going into the third day after my epidural, i woke still sore at injection site, but my headache was gone feeling pretty good….so i did some lite laundry trying to move about as to not get to sore from laying in bed….then by early evening, my lower back was excruiating, i was nausish,.and a headache started again…fearing something was terribly wrong, my fiance rushed me to the E.R….they loaded me up with pain meds and i.v. Fluids to ease the back pain and my violent headache….then the doc told me that my spinal sac had been punctured by the epidural needle causing spinal fluid to leak….i was released, told to bed rest for few ays, drink plenty of caffiene to help subside the headache,.take my regular pain meds as prescribed, and if the severe pain and headaches do not subside, to return to the E.R. For a blood patch, where they would remove blood from my arm and inject it in my spine near the injectionsite to cause a.hematoma to stop the spinal flyid from leaking….buy the time i had got home from the hospital, i vomitted every ounce of fluid i drank…..thinking it was from all the pain mefs i had received in the hospital, i stopped drinking so i wouldnt vomit, and went to sleep….day four, i woke late afternoon,.still sore in lower back and a faint headache…..i decided to stay in bed praying the spinal fluids stop leaking, because if you dont lay on back in bed and stand up, the spinal fluids leak, you will get naushish, and possibly vomit and the headache will get worse….because i do not, if i dont have too, want another needle put into my back after what i just went thru with this bad experience of this steriod epidural that caused my spinal fluids to leak and causing my severe pain, vomiting, and violent headache …so with that being said….i dont think i will ever do another epidural after what i just experienced…as thou i have not been thru enough pain thru these two long yrs of chronic pain and the docs say there is nothing else they can do, but also suggested a spinal cord stimulator placed inside my back which constanly releases pain meds…but right now, thats not an option, that is there solution….me only being 44 yrs old, im too young too go that drastic this early and it will surely end my Police career…so all i have now is a whole lot of praying, physical therapy, pain management, hoping someday i will get better, the pain will ease up, and i will get back into my uniform, get back to my life which has been so drastically altered by my fall. . Will i ever do another elidural?..Hecky NO….am i confident i will ever get better? Not sure, but i have not given up faith….but i am starting to lose faith in the doctors who have so quickly given up on me and didnt hesitate to tell me to hang up my gunbelt and just deal with it…well im not settling for that…..i have not given up yet….sorry this was typed from a phone a hard to proof read…thank you for reading my story…God Bless you all…and good luck with your back issues..

  15. I went to a major hosiptal and had a total of 4 epidural steroid injections 2 in my mid back – did nothing for my pain and 2 in my neck the first one nothing but the second one. Right afterwards on the way home had my brother stop, I got sick, and threw up. Then later that day it was like liquid fire running down my spine, had a headach for a week or more. Later that night I had my first and only time I had blood in my stool. I’ve read else where it can cause bowel problems. My pain level went up and the nerve pain down my arms increased from to the elbows to my fingers.

  16. I suffer from multiple spine problems from a l1 burst fracture into spinal canal. I have degen. disc disease,osteo and rheum arthritis. 12 surgeries. The cardiologist I work for sent me to a pain clinic. The physician there said I needed an epidural inj. which never worked before. I live 30 moles from his office so he said since I did not have a driver,he would not put numbing med in shot. Had the inj. they let me go and 15 miles from home I could not move or feel either legs from my butt to feet. I used an umbrella to put on brakes. My husband came and got me and had to carry me in. After 5 hours feeling started coming back. Too weak to work the next day and waited for the Dr to call me back. He never did. I went to his office and he said he never got my message. Also the inj. once again did no good. Will never go to a pain management place again. Seeing my neuro surg. in 2 days for progression of neck and back severe pain.

  17. I would love to read this post. I used to read your blog, but I can not because of the lack of contrast between the font and the background. I clicked on your tweet. I had a GREAT epidural once, believe it or not, but the anesthesiologist was also an acupuncturist. It was one of the most interesting and intense experiences of my life. Sorry my comment may not have a thing to do with your post! I live a life in pain, too, btw, so I hope that you take my comment seriously! Cheers.

  18. The steroids used for ESI’s are not FDA approved for epidural administration. In fact the makers of both Kenalog and DepoMedrol are on record warning doctors that these products are not recommended by them due to reports of severe adverse events. Since DepoMedrol is a particulate it may cause a sudden heart attack or stroke if accidentally injected into a vein or artary. If steroids are accidentally injected intrathecally, (inside the spinal cord) or if you suffer a bloody tap or puncture where blood and steroid enters the spinal cord, there is a very good chance you may develop a severe immuno reaction that will cause chemical meningitis resulting in Arachnoiditis which cannot be ever cured. The horrific pain of Arachnoiditis is hell on Earth with many suicides. ESI’s are a scam. Many who have posted here may not even be real patients. ESI’s do not cure anything… they do not reduce the need for surgery… they are not FDA approved for safety or efficacy… you are not being given proper informed consent. The risks do outweigh the short term benefit. Don’t believe it? Look it up…

  19. Hi, I found this forum via a google search. I had an epidural about 4 weeks ago, which went wrong and had to have the blood patch in order to get the spinal fluid to stop leaking. The patch worked, however, I have had serious tailbone pain ever since. I have figured it’s just the blood disapating or whatever, but now the pain is more localized to the left side of my tailbone, plus, now my left calf and back of my left thigh is sore. I am sort of concerned and wonder if this sounds like something that I should get checked out, or just wait out the pain? I can’t get the doctor to really address any of it, and the anesthesiologist at the hospital was the one who did the procedure. Does anyone have any ideas on what I should do? I’ve been taking a “wait and see” approach, but I’m a month into it and things aren’t getting better.

  20. My wife went in for her first epideral injection on February 3, 2014. She was experiencing numbing in both her hands. MRI showed deg disc in c6 and c7. After 20 minutes she walked out like nothing ever happened. She was under light sedation as well. After several weeks the numbing never improved so on March 3, 2014 she went back for her second injection. Different anesthesiologist this time. During the procedure she stopped breathing and they had to bag her to get her breathing again. After 2 hours they wheeled her out in a wheelchair and she looked like she was hit by a truck. I put her in the car and she had excruciating lower back pain that she said was traveling upward. After 2 hours at home I took her to the ER where they loaded her up on morphine, did MRI to check for hemotoma. Everything came back fine and the sent her home with pain meds. 2 days later I took her back to the ER because now she was complaining the pain was her entire right side from her neck to her waist and she was numb all down her right side. This time they did ex ray and more morphin. Results showed nothing and sent her home again. Had appt with original shot doctor the next day and he has no explanation on what went wrong. Now it is almost 4 weeks later and yesterday she said it feels like she has been poisoned! We have another appt on April 2, 2014 with shot doc again but nothing is getting better and she is scared to death to get another shot! Could he have punctures the spinal sac? How would you know and what would be the symptoms.
    She went from a perfectly healthy 45 yr old woman with slight numbness in her fingers to a 80 yr woman who has difficulty moving every day! Anyone help?

  21. I’ve had 18 injections and you are right that one was not normal! I would call the office and ask for the names of the two other people who were in the room at the time, while that information is still known by the staff, and for a copy of complete medical records . I would def. call a lawyer, you don’t want to be stuck with even more medical bills if the problem doesn’t improve. what are you going to do when insurance doesn’t cover you because they say a future problem is unrelated (and it is because it will be from this instance) And the fact that the doctor lied than ran out of the room (plus crapping yourself) is more than enough reason to seek compensation. Like you said honesty can go a long way. One doc broke a tool inside of me and to this day they still can’t find the missing piece inside of me. but he was honest, apologized and was genuinely sorry. He went over how it happened, what they did, explained in detail how to contact them if i felt any pain in that area. I signed papers for him saying I wouldn’t sue, he was a nice guy and it was an unfortunate accident, i’m not sue happy. but people like your doctor need to be held accountable for their actions and by failing to go over what happened, what could’ve went wrong and what to look for when you leave the office. How did he not say to call him immediately if you lose control of your bowls?!!! Time for you get someone who cares about your well being, have a lawyer handle this professionally. Best wishes ~Bani

  22. Good Lord! Don’t you people check out who you are going to work on your bodies before you go to them!! I have been going to the same Doctor for 15 years and he is wonderful. I would trust him with my life. I had an epidural this morning and had someone drive me home, of course, but I felt fine once I got home. Just hung around the house today and took it easy. It’s alway’s that way. You people must be going to the wrong Doctor’s.

  23. I have three herniated disks in my lumbar spine. I had been getting epidurals for four years but they they stopped being effective. I was scheduled for a newer surgery because of the severe osteoarthritis. Two weeks before my surgery was scheduled, I went to the hospital by ambulance for severe heart palpitations. For same reason they did an mri and an mra and discovered I had a fairly large brain aneurysm so any and all surgeries had t be permanently cancelled.I am lucky that they found the aneurysm because I would have died during the surgery but that put me back to epidurals and morphine for the disks which cause stenosis.
    Last week I had and epidural and something went horribly wrong. I was receiving iv fentanyl and iv versed but I

  24. I agree with Anne. I’ve had the same internist @ MGH for 30 yrs. I was lucky as I found him when he was young and he went on to become an MGH top dog who always gets his pick of the best neuro and ortho guys. I quit 2 bad docs (in spite of having researched them) before I met him. As I got older and developed severe spinal problems, he was able to send me to the best specialists with lightning speed. Politics is just as important as skill and dedication, unfortunately. You need a doc who is wired into hospital politics. When severe pain comes, it is too late to begin the process of doc hunting. You must have a real wise man internist who you trust to scoot you quickly into the proper specialists office. Being a loyal, honest and reliable patient for many years makes things much easier. My doc has me on epidural steroids and controlled drugs up to the DEA maximum. I don’t abuse the privilege, and only get meds from him and the same pharmacy. Docs appreciate patients who try to lower pain meds without being told.
    I had one blow up with my doc when he asked me nicely to try lowering my pain meds as he thought my cognition was suffering and I might find a lower dose just as effective for pain relief. I was a jerk and did not realize that as we age, the drugs do affect us differently. After nearly two years, he got angry and said I could drop from 50 mg. to 40 mg. on the meds immediately or find a new doc. I was so hurt. I dropped to 40 mg. and after 2 weeks found that I felt better! As you see, I was not always a wonderful patient. I’m sure he put up with me because of our history. For those of you who don’t have years with a particular doc, I hope you will try to find one and build a relationship. Nobody gives narcotics to strangers. I think all this DEA intervention is an awful imposition on doctors but we all need to be aware of their position. Getting your meds from the same doc and same pharmacy makes a huge difference. Lastly, my internist stopped taking new patients 15 years ago as the best often do. However, there are always fine young ones. I would not want an internist who was still able to see new folks after 20 years of practice. If you can allow your internist to choose your neurologist, radiologist, and various surgeons, you may be better served. The internist is privy to all information about them that you will not find in their educational background bios, videos etc. The colleague gossip vine is rife with who is losing it because of drugs, illness, alcohol etc. and who is on top of their game.

  25. sometimes you don’t have a choice (if you are low income and going to clinics) I had to do this for 4years. Took 3 years just to get an MRI of my back.

  26. Anne, I have a great doctor I go to I have had two different doctors to give the epidural steroid injections to me since 1998 I recently started experiencing severe burning in my butt cheek, back of thigh, and bottom of foot, along with severe stabbing pains or shocks in my thigh to my knee because of this I had a new MRI done and I have nerve root clumping with adherence to the dura. My doctor said nothing about the arachnoiditis listed on radiology report and gave me another epidural injection, still saying nothing. I’m pissed I would not have known the problem had I not asked for a copy of the radiologists report! It wrong to keep information of the what ifs or what is from patients. I would tell anybody do not take epidural steroid injections no matter what, wish it knew then what I know now

  27. all of a sudden I screamed and asked what went wrong. I was given more versed and was told nothing was wrong. I developed severe irritable bladder, I cannot bend and cry even trying to get out of my hospital bed. The morphine does nothing and I don’t want to live needing higher and higher doses of morphine. I am getting worse every day. I see this doctor on Wednesday and am going to insist on an mri to see what is going on because something went wrong no matter what this doctor says. I feel pretty scared since no matter what the problem is I can’t have surgery because of the brain aneurysm. At this rate, I’ll be in a wheelchair in a couple weeks and my future doesn’t look to bright with all these problems. I can’t move my arms without severe back pain and I have pain in places that were never a problem. i’ll keep you posted because patients should know that these frequent procedures are not as benign as and risk free as we are led to believe.

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